Legendary Format

Til dem som vil have lidt læsestof til morgendagens underholdning til de overnattende, så er her reglerne osv til "Legendary" Formatet, nemlig det vi skal spille i morgen. Det er dette vi spiller efter i morgen, inklusiv banlisten. (så ja du må spille Pot of Greed og alle mulige andre sjove banned kort!)

Vi låner af hinanden hvis vi mangler noget, så tag gerne mere med end det i selv skal bruge, i tilfælde af at kunne hjælpe en ven i nød ^^

Here we go;

Speaking of “Home-brew” formats, I’d like to share a special multiplayer format for YGO created in conjunction by Mike Powers & Vince Tundo (thank them for this awesomeness, not me!). It is called “Legendary Format,” and is modeled after the popular “Commander” (EDH) format for MTG. With their permission, I recently compiled the rules together into a manageable form, with the hope that many more players can experience the zaniness of this unique format! Here it is:
What is Legendary Format?

Legendary Format (LF) is a new & exciting way to play Yu-Gi-Oh! which allows you to play with older, nostalgic cards, battling multiple friends at a time! The format is based off of a popular Magic: The Gathering format called Commander (formerly Elder Dragon Highlander, or EDH). Legendary Format utilizes special deck construction rules and a unique banned list designed to promote fun and interactive multiplayer games between 2, 3, or even more players!
Deck Construction Rules

In LF, a player’s Main Deck must consist of exactly 100 cards; 99 Cards & 1 Spirit Monster, which is placed in the Shadow Zone at the beginning of the game. A player’s Spirit Monster must be a LV 7 or LV 8 monster which can be Normal Summoned.
Each monster in a player’s Main, Extra, and Side deck must share either a Type or an Attribute with that player’s chosen Spirit Monster. Example: if a player chose “Blue-Eyes White Dragon” as their Spirit Monster, each other monster in their deck(s) must be either Dragon type or LIGHT attribute.
Players cannot use more than 1 copy of a given card in their decks. Example: a player could use 1 copy of “Cyber Dragon” in their deck, but not 2 copies. Effects which change the name of a monster are not affected by this rule (a player could legally play both “Cyber Dragon” & “Proto-Cyber Dragon”, but not more than 1 copy of each).
A player’s Extra Deck can only consist of 10 cards, and like the monsters in a player’s Main deck, must share a Type and/or Attribute with their Spirit Monster. The same rule applies to the Side Deck, which can consist of 15 cards if used. However, use of Side Decks is not recommended, as LF matches typically take longer to play than typical 1v1 Advanced Format matches.
Mulligan
At the beginning of the game, all players announce their Spirit Monster and move it to the Shadow Zone face-up. Players then draw a 5 card hand as normal and use a randomizer such as dice to determine turn order. Once the turn order has been set, players may take a “Mulligan” in turn order to alleviate weak hands. This is done by Banishing any number of cards in your hand face-down, and then drawing the same number of cards as were Banished. The first Mulligan is free; players may repeat the process afterwards, but draw 1 less card each time. Example: a player is unhappy with their opening hand and chooses to Mulligan. That player Banishes 3 cards from their hand face-down, and then draws 3 cards. After that, the player is still unhappy with their hand. That player chooses to Banish 2 more cards, but draws only 1 the subsequent time. After all Mulligans are resolved, all cards which were Banished are shuffled into their owner’s decks.
Spirit Monsters, Life Points, and the Shadow Zone

All players begin the game with 16,000 Life Points, twice the amount used in a normal game of YGO. A player is eliminated when their Life Points reach 0 as normal, however, the remaining players (if any) continue playing until 1 winner is declared. When a player leaves the game, all of their cards on the field disappear alongside them. The first player able to declare an attack in the game is the last player who began the game (in turn order).
A player’s Spirit Monster begins the game in the Shadow Zone, a place which exists separate of all other zones and is not considered to be “on the field” or “banished.” Spirit Monsters can be Normal Summoned as a Tribute Summon during their owner’s Main Phase, using 1 tribute the first time they are summoned, and 1 extra tribute each additional time. Example 1: a player is summoning their Spirit Monster for the 1st time in a game. That player sacrifices 1 monster as a Tribute Summon, and Normal Summons their Spirit Monster to the field (even though a LV 7 or LV 8 monster would normally require 2 tributes). Example 2: a player is summoning their Spirit Monster for the 2nd time in a game, this time using 2 monsters as tribute to Tribute Summon their Spirit Monster (this summon is treated as a Normal Summon).
If a given Spirit Monster deals 8,000 or more points of damage to a single player, that player is eliminated. This damage is cumulative over the course of the game, and is unaffected by other changes in life such as effects which cause a player’s Life Points to increase (ex. “Upstart Goblin”). A Spirit Monster is considered to be the same monster who has dealt the same amount of damage to a player over the course of the game, even if it has been flipped face-down, banished, etc. This damage is also cumulative if control of a Spirit Monster switches.
When in the Shadow Zone, your Spirit Monster is always face-up. If a Spirit Monster would be sent to the graveyard or banished from anywhere, it MAY be returned to the owner’s Shadow Zone. This effect is OPTIONAL, but DOES NOT “miss the timing” and cannot be negated. If this replacement effect is used, effects that activate when a monster is “sent to the graveyard,” “banished,” etc. will not activate. If a Spirit Monster would be sent to the graveyard or banished face-down, it MUST be returned to the Shadow Zone.
If a Spirit Monster is returned to a player’s hand or deck, this replacement effect will NOT activate and the monster will remain in the player’s hand/deck, but can be later summoned under normal rules. It is still considered a Spirit Monster, and the aforementioned replacement effect(s) can be used if the monster again leaves the field via being sent to the graveyard/banished.
How Do My Cards Work in Multiplayer?

While it would be difficult to list rulings for every card/effect when used in games with more than 2 players, here are some general guidelines that can be followed:
1. Cards or Effects which reference “all players” or “all cards on the field” affect everyone. Example: “Malevolent Catastrophe” destroys all Spell and Trap cards on the field amongst all players.
2. Cards or Effects which reference “both players” affect everyone also. Example: the effect(s) of “Cyber Jar” or “Fiber Jar” are applied to all players.
3. Non-continuous Cards or Effects which reference “your opponent” or a card(s) on “your opponent’s side of the field” affect 1 opponent of your choice. Example: “Raigeki” destroys all monsters on the field of the opponent of your choice. It does not destroy all monsters on all opponents’ fields. This also applies to monsters which attack all monsters on your opponent’s side of the field (ex. “Asura Priest”).
4. Continuous Effects which reference “your opponent” or a card(s) on “your opponent’s side of the field” affect all opponents. Example: “Burden of the Mighty” affects all monsters on all opponents’ fields.
5. Cards/Effects which target an enemy player (ex. “Delinquent Duo”) only affect 1 opponent of the owner’s choosing. Cards/Effects which require an opponent to perform an action or choice (ex. “Painful Choice,” “Question”) require the owner to pick 1 opponent to perform the action and/or choice.
6. Cards whose effects/ATK/DEF vary based on differences in life points change depending on who they are currently targeting/battling. Example 1: Player 1 is attacking Player 2 with “Ancient Sacred Wyvern.” Player 1 has more LP than Player 2, and as such, the ATK of “Ancient Sacred Wyvern” is boosted appropriately. Example 2: Player 3 is playing in the same game as Player 1 & 2 in the previous example, and has more LP than Player 1. Player 3 attacks Player 1’s “Ancient Sacred Wyvern” with “Red-Eyes Black Dragon,” and the ATK of “Ancient Sacred Wyvern” is lowered appropriately.
7. The card “Exchange” is resolved one choice at a time amongst two players at a time, in turn player order.
8. All “table talk” or discussion between players is legal so long as it is non-offensive/derogatory. While players may intentionally share or fake information regarding the contents of their hand, deck, etc., these zones are still private and cannot be physically shown to other players or flashed intentionally.
Suggested Banned List

The banned list given here for Legendary Format is merely a suggestion, and can be edited to fit the whims of your individual playgroup(s). Some cards listed are more powerful in a 1v1 scenario, while others do more damage in 1vX games. Many are simply overpowered or do not work properly in a multiplayer format (ex. “Last Turn”). Please feel free to offer up suggestions, although the goal is to keep the list as short as possible!

Banned:
Cyber-Stein
Dark Hole
Dark Magician of Chaos
Dimension Fusion
Exchange of the Spirit
Final Countdown
Heavy Storm
Imperial Order
Inferno Tempest
Last Turn
Royal Oppression
Temple of the Kings
Time Seal
The Winged Dragon of Ra
Victory Dragon
Yata-Garasu

Phew, that was a lot! Hope you guys have some fun with this, and next time we’ll start talking REAL Advanced Format strategy!

Play Hard or Go Home!

~Paul McCann~



Kilde; findes her Dette er blot et uddrag, så dem der vil læse hele hans introduktion til hans egentlige pointe (nemlig vise reglerne til Legendary) kan gøre dette.. Hans introduktion er lige så lang som produktet xD

lyder interessant, selv om jeg ikke har tid til at læse det hele lige nu ^^

det vigtigste er sådan set at du giver svar på den besked jeg skrev til Michael som han så videresendte...

Lyder cool and all, men vi må se hvordan vi gør med en banliste selv.

vi bruger den banliste der står heri..

Du skal huske at kort som Chaos End Dragon - Blablabla nærmest er utroligt dårlig heri, da den jo kun vælger 1 modspiller.. dvs man går mildest talt selvmord ved at bruge dens eff da man så er åben mod alle andre

Raigeki bliver også bare en teoretisk Smashing Ground, da den kun vil påvirke en spiller

Så de broken kort er slet ikke så broken igen

Pot of greed er mere ringe men stadig god, siden dit deck kommer til at være usammen hængende alligevel.

Ting som Witch of the black forest er ikke engang sådan et stort problem, det er næsten påkrævet at man spiller med søgere af den eller anden afskyggelse.

Hvis man bygger et earth deck er rescue cat dog stadig broken "to a extent".

Tænker dog at alle de der combo OTK kort bliver fuldstændig ubrugelige, ikke mindst fordi at der er 3+ spillere.

Kræver så stadig at man får Cat før man får sin Airbellum, da der ikke er mange andre gode tuners som opfylder kravene. Og man kan "kun" gå ind til Goyo og Gaia

Sandt, jeg tænkte bare i banerne af at have en søger som lader en få sådanne ting.

(Man kunne også bruge den til Xyz summon, tænk hvis man vælger Ancient gear golem som spirit monster og Overlayer indtil Zenmayen (eller hvordan det ny er stavet))

du må jo kun køre 1 af alle kort - ie Rescue Cat er på ingen måde broken her..


Selv hvis du får den fyret af i starten er den stadig ikke slem.. For du har 5 modstandere eller sådan noget, som alle har 16000 lp hver... så derfor gør din "broken" combo ikke rigtigt noget, andet mod max 1 spiller eller til at få et stærkt monster ud til at forsvare dig selv med

Det er stadig bedre end mange kan nå at frembringe på en tur i sådanne deck

du er velkommen til at låne mine Rescue Cat hvis du vil, så kan vi jo se hvor "broken" den er..


Giver dig bare lige nogle tal;
Chancen for at trække Rescue Cat i starthånden (dvs 6 kort) uden nogle af dens targets i det 99 kort deck du spiller er 6,06%..

hvis du kører 5 targtets til Rescue Cat er der næsten 2% risiko for at du trækker mindst 1 af dem sammen med din resuce cat..

ydermere er der næsten 28%risiko for at trække mindst 1 af dets targets før du overhovedet har trukket rescue cat..


Ved dog ikke hvorfor du synes at den er åh så sindsyg her i dette format, men nu må vi se, du var ihvertfald velkommen til at låne den af mig xD

Sagde "to an extent" fordi at jeg mener at det stadig kan være et rimeligt stærkt kort, ikke at det er broken. Desudes har jeg tænkt mig at lave noget reptil værk tænker jeg.

hvis det er reptil earth kan du sagtens køre en hel Rescue Cat engine xD

Tror ikke engang at jeg kan finde en level 7-8 reptil monster, tager med busen om 5 minuter så kommer ikke til at svare igen.

Tror Milfred vil sætte pris på noget feedback

Jeg synes det var fint som en test. Vi har sikkert alle sammen fået ideer til hvordan man kan lave et deck næste gang som måske fungerer bedre, og med bedre kort (hej dem som spillede med Butterfly Dagger xD)

Noget som var lidt træls var at der var en hel langside som godt kunne bruge flere minutter på deres tur, selvom de ikke lavede de store plays. Men det har som sådan ikke noget med spillet at gøre, det er mere nogle som bare skal tage sig sammen


Andre som har feedback (ved godt at dette sikkert forbliver ubesvaret, men jeg prøver at være lidt optimistisk)